{"id":116,"date":"2010-11-09T21:54:00","date_gmt":"2010-11-09T21:54:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pagan-gerbil.net\/?p=116"},"modified":"2010-11-09T21:54:00","modified_gmt":"2010-11-09T21:54:00","slug":"family-trees-and-logical-deduction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pagan-gerbil.net\/?p=116","title":{"rendered":"Family Trees and Logical Deduction"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This last weekend, I got bit by the genealogy bug again. It started off as an investigation as to why my existing GEDCOM file didn\u2019t work in a WPF demonstration app (<a href=\"http:\/\/familyshow.codeplex.com\/\">Family.Show<\/a>), and kept losing relationships. It turns out that the GEDCOM format requires a relationship (or FAM record) to specify the two people who are \u2018husband\u2019 and \u2018wife\u2019 in a family, but also that both those people must have a reference to the relationship. Technically, you can say that it is a poorly formed file if it doesn\u2019t have all those links in place but I prefer to think of it as a weak file format if it allows such ambiguity. My particular family tree file works fine in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.family-historian.co.uk\">Family Historian<\/a> (the program that my Dad and I use to edit the tree), but opening it in Family.Show loses relationships. It assumes that if Alice has Bob listed as her husband, then Bob should have Alice listed as his wife regardless of whether he does or not.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, from the techie stuff, I looked at alternative file formats, but quickly got side-tracked by different pages about how to research a family tree. It seems that the best way is to go to the records office and trawl through by hand, which is a bit time-consuming. Online databases are patchy, and don\u2019t provide a great deal of detail. There is an excellent site at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freebmd.org.uk\">www.freebmd.org.uk<\/a> that is aiming to get the indexes of births, marriages and deaths online for free search, but they will only give information in three month ranges, not at specific days. The amount of other information is also fairly sparse, such as places and names. They do tell you where the certificates will be found, so you can order them (at a cost of approximately \u00a39). This is without even knowing for sure that it is the person you\u2019re looking for more information about! At almost \u00a330 per person (if you want the whole set of birth, one marriage and death records), the hobby becomes quite expensive. I don\u2019t know if harassing a local records office will actually yield more information or not, but it\u2019s worth a try to circumvent those costs.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, I did find a Family History Society based on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk\/\">Isle of Wight<\/a> that has made the island\u2019s records searchable and incredibly easy to use. It\u2019s slightly easier that FreeBMD to search things on, and remembering my mother and some of her siblings were born on the island, I plugged in the few names I had for that side of the family to see what I could find. I got my granddad&#8217;s birth record back which gave me his mother\u2019s maiden name (although it only gave me a year for birth, not a day). I checked her surname for marriage records with his surname, and found one match. This gave me my great-grandparents full names. Putting those into the birth records gave me years for their births, and their mothers maiden names.<\/p>\n<p>So I repeated, and went backwards. I\u2019ve hit a couple of dead-ends \u2013 people who must have been born or married off of the island (hey, it happens), or multiple possibilities of who a person is (one Toogood I found could have been any one of a half-dozen recorded births). But I managed to get a couple of lines with confirmed dates in the 1860s, and names for the generation before them. All based on free information I found on the internet. Which is slightly scary.<\/p>\n<p>One afternoon\u2019s work gave me about 50 new names to add to the tree \u2013 and for a change, it\u2019s going backwards! One of the hardest parts of building a family tree is keeping it up to date. At present, at least three of my cousins are expecting babies in the new year.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pagan-gerbil.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/familytreezoomout.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"familytreezoomout\" style=\"border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px\" border=\"0\" alt=\"familytreezoomout\" src=\"https:\/\/pagan-gerbil.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/familytreezoomout_thumb.png\" width=\"600\" height=\"168\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is it, as it stands today. The highest point on the far left, and the third of the chart on that side is where my Dad got to researching his line. The two-pronged point in the middle and the two slightly lower points either side are what I managed to research from the Isle of Wight Family History&nbsp; Society. The two low points on the far right are what we\u2019ve managed to get for my wife\u2019s family so far. The lowest point on the chart (about 3\/4 of the way along) is my son, around whom my tree research is based.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, not all family history societies are quite as useful as the IoW\u2019s. The Bristol and Avon FHS has a research room in the records office, although from the look of the website I originally thought it might have been a \u2018quirky name\u2019 for the records database search of their own site. The website gives off a bit of the 1995 vibe \u2013 alas, a lot of FHS websites have a bit of an \u2018information superhighway\u2019 feel to them. It turns out that to find information, one must physically leave their desk and look for it!<\/p>\n<p>It feels, in this modern age, a little bit strange to have to know what area you\u2019re looking for and actually go there to find records.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This last weekend, I got bit by the genealogy bug again. It started off as an investigation as to why my existing GEDCOM file didn\u2019t work in a WPF demonstration app (Family.Show), and kept losing relationships. 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